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Stories of Creative Courage with Joey Clifton and Solomon Mehta-Slade

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Redefining Creativity: how two changemakers are building community through courage and joy

What happens when two purpose-driven leaders decide to challenge everything they learned about creativity in school? In this episode of Stories of Creative Courage, I had the pleasure of hosting Joey Clifton and Solomon Mehta-Slade, co-founders of the newly launched Change:Maker Collective.

Both Joey and Sol began our conversation with a confession: they learned early in their schooling years that they weren't creative. Does it sound familiar? This limiting belief, passed down through educational systems that equate creativity solely with artistic ability, is something they've spent years unlearning. What emerged from our conversation was a beautiful exploration of creativity as an innate human capacity that shows up everywhere—from cooking and gardening to business building and internal inquiry work.

Their journey of co-creating the Change:Maker Collective offers a masterclass in collaborative creativity. It demonstrates how listening deeply to clients' needs, trusting your intuition and choosing the right collaborators can birth something truly transformative. As Joey beautifully put it, sometimes you need to nurture that tender seedling of an idea with more than just what you can give it alone.

Show Notes

[00:00] - Introduction to Stories of Creative Courage

  • Rachel introduces the initiative and her fascination with creativity in all its forms

  • Setting the stage for exploring both creative expression and the obstacles that get in the way

  • First-time three-way conversation format

[04:00] - Redefining Creativity Beyond Art

  • Joey and Sol share their journeys from ‘I'm not creative’ to discovering creativity everywhere

  • Creativity as cooking, gardening, business building and internal inquiry

  • The importance of generative openness and curiosity in creative expression

  • Moving beyond narrow definitions inherited from school systems

[09:00] - The Birth of Change:Maker Collective

  • The phone call from the woods when Joey issued the invitation to Sol to collaborate and the courage to share tender ideas

  • Years of listening to client patterns around loneliness and lack of support

  • The ‘we're better together’ realisation and choosing trusted collaborators

  • Co-creation as a creative act requiring vulnerability

[15:00] - Creative Courage in Action

  • The difference between the initial ‘yes’ and the ongoing courage to show up

  • Iteration, listening to community needs and willingness to pivot

  • Backing yourself when ‘the results aren't in’ and there's no destination

  • Creating scaffolding and optimal conditions for ideas to thrive

[21:00] - Inside the Changemaker Collective

  • Virtual community for purpose-led leaders working toward a fairer, greener, kinder world

  • Balance of inner work (space to think, reflect, connect with wisdom) and forward movement

  • Joy as a central organising principle for sustainable changemaking

  • Community as a place to share resources, cross-pollinate ideas and bolster each other

[24:00] - Creativity Meets Entrepreneurship

  • Challenging the belief that business has to be hard work

  • Ideas finding you vs. forcing creativity to happen

  • The necessity of creating space for big magic to occur

  • Moving from ‘head-down’ busyness to receptive listening

[29:00] - Essential Self and Authentic Expression

  • Creativity as our innate human form without limiting beliefs

  • Seeing people's potential and brilliance as part of their essence

  • The ongoing work of acceptance rather than fighting inner critics

  • Creating space for all parts while staying in the driver's seat

[35:00] - Working with Inner Critics as Protectors

  • Reframing critical voices as protectors trying to keep us safe

  • The importance of anticipating and befriending these parts

  • Creating separation between essential self and protective parts

  • Using humor and compassion in the ongoing inner work

Key Quotes

"Every single human being is innately creative like it's not a question. This is not something to be debated. It is who we are in our very most essential form." - Joey Clifton

"The results aren't in. Like there is no destination. They will never be in. You have to just back yourself." - Joey Clifton

"To sustain the work that we do, to sustain ourselves, I think we need to enjoy it as well." - Solomon Mehta-Slade

"We have to create the space to let the ideas find us because if we're just rushing around, busy, busy, busy, the ideas never come." - Solomon Mehta-Slade

"There's something about courage and creativity and choosing your people to nurture the idea and nurture the creativity." - Joey Clifton

Resources Mentioned

  • Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert - Joey's favourite book on creativity

  • Internal Family Systems - Framework for working with different parts of ourselves

  • Change:Maker Collective - Virtual community for purpose-led leaders, co-founded and hosted by Joey and Sol

Where to Find Our Guests

Joey Clifton

Solomon Mehta-Slade

Changemaker Collective

  • Currently accepting new members (5 weeks in!)

  • Check out either website above for more information

  • Open to co-creation and community input in these early stages

Ready to Step Into Your Own Creative Courage?

Joey and Sol's journey beautifully illustrates what becomes possible when we move beyond the limiting belief that we're ‘not creative’ and step into authentic expression with trusted support. Their emphasis on community, deep listening and working with our protective parts resonates deeply with the work I do.

If this conversation stirred something in you—if you're ready to befriend those inner critics, discover your essential creative self and express authentically without feeling alone—I'd love to support you.

The Creative Courage Circle is an ongoing intimate group that uses reflective writing as a portal for deep creative healing and mutual witnessing. Like Joey and Sol's Change:Maker Collective, it's a space where we're genuinely better together, supporting each other to move through creative blocks and step into fuller expression. Membership is by invitation only—please contact me to explore this option.

For those ready for deeper transformation, my Bespoke 1:1 Creative Transformation journey offers 6 months of personalised integration work based on finding your Essence process. This work helps you embrace your hidden aspects (including those protective parts we discussed) and create from your complete authentic power.

Both offerings honour what Joey and Sol demonstrated so beautifully: that creativity is our birthright, courage grows through practice and we don't have to walk this path alone.

Thank You!

A heartfelt thank you to Joey and Sol for being such generous, thoughtful guests and for experimenting with our first three-way conversation format. Thank you also to those who joined us live and to all our community members who continue to make these conversations richer.

P.S.

This is part of my ongoing Stories of Creative Courage series, where I explore creativity in all its forms with coaches, entrepreneurs, artists and changemakers. Each conversation reveals new insights about what it takes to step up and express ourselves fully.

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Want to share your own story of creative courage? I'd love to hear from you!

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